ART AND SCIENCE[purely Original Discourse]


16 August 1979, Taipei, TAIWAN

You know, the fundamental difference between Art and Science is that one is a state of movement towards finer sentiments and finer senses/resistance, and the other is a Rational expression concerning each and every stage of Cause and Effect.

What is Art?

You do so many things, you eat, you dance, you move, you speak, you do so many things, if you do these things in a fine style, in a subtle style, then that style comes within the scope of Art.

Art of saying, Art of writing like these.

And when you are doing something on a rational basis of logic, and at the same time, paying proper attention to the Cause and Effect Theory.

You Know in this world, everything comes within the scope of these Cause and Effect theory.

Nothing is Non-causal in this world, whatever we see or whatever we can perceive everything comes under Cause and Effect, it is Science.

What we can detect by seeing, has got some causal factor beyond it.

You see Sugar.

Now what is the cause of Sugar?

The Cause of Sugar is Sugar cane or Sugar beet.

Where Sugar beet or Sugar cane is the Cause, sugar is the Effect.

Then, where Sugar cane or Sugar beet is the Effect, beyond that there is seed, seed is the Cause. Effect is the Sugar Beet. So, in all the spheres of our life, there is the Cause.

What is Science?

Science means, that is based on rationality and it pays proper attention to the Cause and Effect theory.

About 2000 years ago, one Philosopher named Kańáda, he said,


Where there is no Causal factor, there cannot be any Effect factor also.”

Now these Spiritual practice, it comes within the scope of Science.

And here, the First Scientist who invented this Spiritual Science was Lord Shiva, who was born about 7000 years ago.

HIS, the name of HIS spouse was Párvatii.

In Old China, Párvatii was known as Tárá.

Now, this Science, this Spiritual Science is divided into two portions – two compartments just like two wings of a bird.

One portion was known as Nigama, another portion, Ágama. The questions of Párvatii were known as Nigama, and the replies of Shiva were known as Ágama.

Once upon a time, Párvatii asked Shiva, “Oh Lord, in different spheres of life, we say or we see, there are certain fixed minimum qualifications. Suppose a doctor, suppose before becoming a doctor, he must become a medical graduate.

That graduation in Medical science is to be treated has the minimum qualification for a physician and in different walks of life, there are certain minimum qualifications.

Now for going through this Science of Spirituality, what is the minimum qualification?

There must be some minimum qualification.”

Shiva said,

Atmajiṋánam idaḿ devi paraḿ mokśaeka Sádhanam; Sukrtaermánavo bhútvá jiṋániicenmokśamápnuyát.

In the process of Introvert that is in the introversial march of this created world, when everything moves from crude to subtle.” What does happen?


Oh Lady, Lord Shiva said, “When one acquires a human body, and develops devotion in HIM, and that is the minimum and final, and only qualification for a spiritual aspirant. he requires no other qualification.

He should remember that, everybody should remember that, when the human body is there, and that human body by dint of its devotion, is eligible to attain that Supreme Stance, that Divine Stance.

Nobody is inferior to or superior to others; it is the birth-right of all humans to attain that Non-Attributional stance, which is the Supreme Goal, the Supreme Desideratum of all humans.

There cannot be any restriction of caste or creed, or race, or academic qualification.

A man who has acquired immense educational wealth may lag behind; if there is want of Devotion, and an illiterate man can attain the Supreme Stage or Supreme position if there is Devotion in him. This was the reply of Shiva.

I have told you that the old Chinese name of Párvatii was Tárá. Yes.

Tárá asked Shiva, Now, how one is to know that Devotion is the Only way, rather Devotion is the way?

When one feels that devotion is the only way, then one will devote all one’s possibilities, potentialities, and stamina in developing Devotion.

When one devotes one’s everything unto the Parama Puruśa, that devoted propensities of human mind makes a man a devotee, and his faculties are known as Devotion.

The collective name of his propensities goaded unto the Parama Puruśa is known as Devotion because it is devoted to HIM.

Shiva said,

Atmajiṋánam idaḿ devi paraḿ mokśaeka sádhanam; Sukrtaermánavo bhútvá jiṋániicenmokśamápnuyát.

It is the first stage.

Now, what is Átmajiṋánam?

In reply to Párvatii’s question.

Shiva said,

Átmajiṋánaḿ vidurjiṋánaḿ jiṋánányanyáni yánitu;

Táni jiṋánávabhásáni sárasyanaeva bodhanát.

I am using Saḿskrta slokas and not Páli because Páli may not be intelligible to you.

Saḿskrta is better understood. That’s why I am using Saḿskrta slokas.

You know, when a man knows something, what is that actional side of knowing?

The science of knowing is what?

The Internal projection of external vibrations; that is Introversial projection of external feelings, external vibrations, is known as knowledge.

That is, in philosophical language, you may say knowledge means subjectivization of objectivities, Subjectivization of Objectivities.

Now you are knowing something, certain portion of your mind is the knower, and certain portion of your mind is metamorphosed into known when you are knowing something external.

But when you are to know your Self, i.e., Self-realization, what you have to do?

Your knower portion is the subjective mind who is seeing the elephant, who is seeing the cow, but it is not seeing itself.

It is seeing so many things, but it is not seeing itself.

So what is Átmajiṋánam, that is what is Self-Realization?

Self-Realization is, when one sees one’s Subjective entity with the Vibrative faculty of one’s Spirit, of one’s Consciousness.

So here, Shiva says the actual knowledge, what is the Actual Knowledge?

Actual Knowledge is knowing one’s One Self, that is knowing the subjective portion of your entity, and not the Objective Portion.

You know, there are certain defective philosophies in the world, for them the material world is everything.

Matter is everything, when matter is everything; then matter becomes the Goal of life.

And the Human existence, human Consciousness, Subjective portion of human mind, everything will be slowly metamorphosed into matter.

A developed man will becomes like earth and stone.

That’s why that Philosophy is detrimental to human development.

Reverend Karl Marx preached that defective philosophy.

You should keep your mind free from the bindings and fetters of such defective Philosophy because it is anti-human, not only anti-human.

It is most detrimental to human existence and human development.

You should never forget this fact.

Now, Shiva said, that this Self-Realization, that is, when the Subjective mind is metamorphosed into the Consciousness, it is proper knowledge. Other knowledges are not at all Knowledge.

Átmajiṋánaḿ vidurjiṋánaḿ jiṋánányanyáni yánitu; Táni jiṋánávabhásáni.

You know in case of shadow, you were students of science know that in case of shadows, there are two portions – the umbra portion, and penumbra portion.

Here Lord Shiva said, that neither umbra nor the penumbra are the actual phase.

HE said, all other objective knowledges, that is where knowing means subjectivization of objectivity, is actually not knowledge.

They are like the umbras and penumbras of shadows.

And by seeing the umbra or penumbra, you cannot have a proper idea of the actual thing.

There is a lichee tree, there is one guava tree.

By seeing their shadows, you cannot understand which one is the shadow of Lichee tree and which one is the shadow of Guava tree.

You have to see the Original tree.

This was the reply given by Lord Shiva about 7000 years ago, Lord Shiva who started this Spiritual Science.

Again, the question of Párvatii was, “Oh Lord, there are so many people who say, ‘This place is a holy place, that place is an unholy place.’ They go on moving throughout the world in search of so many Tiirthas, that is places of pilgrimage.

What should be the correct approach?”

Shiva said,

Idaḿ Tiirthaḿidaḿ Tiirthaḿ Bhramanti Támasájanáh

Átmatiirthaḿ na Jánanti kat́haḿ Mokśo Varánáne.

Oh my Lady, so many people are moving to so many places, but they do not know, that the highest Tiirtha -Tiirtha means place of pilgrimage – the Highest Tiirtha lies coveted within his very existence. He needn’t go elsewhere in search of Tiirtha”. Why?

When, just now, I told you that, in case of physical knowledge, that is external or extroversial knowledge, the process of knowledge means Subjectivization of external Objectivity.

But in case of true knowledge, as explained by Lord Shiva, what does happen?

The very Subjective mind is metamorphosed into Consciousness, that is Átman, that is, the Supreme Knowing entity.

So when the final Goal, the Supreme Desideratum is metamorphosed into the Supreme knowing Entity, the Supreme “I” then the best Tiirtha, rather, the only Tiirtha, lies coveted within your “I” feeling.

Each and every man has got I feeling, Each and every man feels that “I exist”.

This feeling of “I exist” is the final form of Expressed world and behind that Expressed World, behind that final form of Expressed world, there lies coveted the Supreme Consciousness, the Átmán.

So, átmán is the Best Tiirtha and Átmán is the Supreme Tiirtha. Rather Átmán is the only Tiirtha.

You are all Spiritual aspirants.

You should remember that your movement is not from subtle to crude, but from crude to subtle.

But you must not neglect this crude world, because your Existence is being nourished by this crude world.

That’s why you should pay Proper respect to the Crude world also.

That’s why I said, “Ours is a Subjective Approach through Objective Adjustment”.

You should remember this fact.

And I hope there will be Chinese rendering in near Future.

Before tomorrow’s General Darshan, in morning span and this follow Discourse, I think that it was rendered into Chinese.

And did all of you understand.

What I said in the whole span?

Was it clear?

What I said?

Could u? Yeah.

Let them say.