23 October 1978, Patna , INDIA

{This discourse was heard from the tape by me & edited as it is, by HIS Grace, please go through}

Karmádhyakśa sarvabhútádhiváso sákśii cetá kevalo nirguńashca.

When the actional expressions take a definite form, a definite shape or definite size, then that stage is known as “kriyá”.

And before that, that is when only actional expressions are there but no definite form, or shape, or size have/has been there, then it is called “karma”.

Now, in this universe of ours there are both karma and kriyá.

And without karma there cannot be any kriyá.


When so many guńas are there?

No, here the word Nirguńa has been used.

Because HIS guńas are, HIS attributions are beyond the scope of any measurement.

That’s why we have got no other alternative but to say HE is, nirguńa. Here nirguńa doesn’t mean want of guńa. Here nirguńa doesn’t mean guńaráhitya.

But here nirguńa means guńa beyond the jurisdiction of measurement.

That day I told you that for HIM, a sloka is there–

Prabhumiisham aniisham asheśaguńam


Prabhumiisham” – “Oh Lord, Thou art the Lord of everything. Thou art the controller of everything.

–”Prabhumiisham”. “Aniisham” – “but there is no Lord, no controller to control you”.

– “Aniisham”.

Asheśaguńam” – “Your guńas are beyond the scope of measurement.” “Asheśaguńam”.

Asheśa means, “infinite”.

Guńahiinamahesha” – “But, Thou art guńahiina. Why?

An object becomes guńii, when it comes within the bondage of guńa. When it comes within the noose of guńa.

But because guńas are under You, You cannot be brought within the serpentine noose of the guńas. That’s why You are guńahiina.

Mahesha” “Mahesha” means “Lord of all lords”.


I told you that in so many paoránik deities, so many mythological gods and goddesses and deities, you will see they have got, those gods and goddesses have got so many ornaments.

Here there is crown. Here there is bracelet. Here there is necklace.

And so many ornaments.

So many gods and goddesses have got so many shaunka, cakra, gadá, padma, so many ornaments, so many ornaments.


Yes, HIS devotees, HIS followers, HIS disciples — they are HIS ornaments (avadhutas/avadhutikas, grhii acaryas/ duty bearing grhii margiis are laughing).

So, HIS followers, HIS disciples, HIS devotees are HIS ornaments.

HE requires no other ornament. And HE is nirguńa because HE is beyond the bondage of guńas.