“1979 – CASTE IS UNREAL”
- CASTE IS UNREAL – FIELD WALK BEFORE DMC [purely Original Hindi talk]SHRII SHRII ÁNANDAMÚRTI
29th October, 1979, DMC, VÁRÁŃASI
(the translation was done with utmost care, if any possible errors, forego your caste sentiment)
In Bhárata(INDIA), there is 3 corners, 3 lipi(script) took birth – Allahabad – from North east of Allahabad – West UP, Harayana, Punjab, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Afghanistan, South Russia – these are all Sáradá.
From South west – Central MP, Rajasthan, Maharashtra, Gujarat – these are Náradá.
The Brahmans here, they are called Nágar Brahmins.
Nágar Brahamins when they used to write Saḿskrta lipi, Nágar Brahmin when they used to write their mother tongue Gujarati, that name was called Nágari. There is no Matra. Aihra.
In Saḿskrta it is said Matra. So there is no Matra. Samajgiala(do you follow)?
When writing Saḿskrta, they used TO write with the Matra.
Saḿskrta another name is what? Devabhasa.
While writing Devabhasa, when they were using Nágari bhasa, for that Nágari was called Deva- Nágari. Ordinary Nágari – Gujarati Nágari till now it is being written. Nágar Brahmin.
Somebody is telling 1. Sáradá and another is 2. Náradá.
Náradá’s name is itself Nágari.
From East of Allahabad – it is Kut́ila.
Kut́ila’s lipi in present way of writing can be seen in Bangla, Assami,Manipuri, Oriya, Maethilii Bhojpuri its own lipi, Magahii its own lipi that is Kut́ila.
From down the earth we can get.
Kut́ila it is written like round round, it takes shape like round, so it is Kut́ila. Do you understand.
Some margii is asking something…
Tibetan lipi is a sister lipi of Kut́ila.
Aum Mani Padme Hum.
You know Mevárii language, its lipi is Kut́ila.
Maethilii lipi, Bangla lipi, Mevárii lipi – same lipi, same lipi.
Somebody is asking about Arabic – Baba says it is different, that is semitic. For that it has been called semitic. Hebrew and Arabic are semitic. It is also from right to left.
Till now the official language of Nepali was Maethilii, in Maethilii script. All old records are in Maethilii script. That is Kut́ila script.
Somebody says, Nepali was the palace language.
It was the palace language. Gorkhali is being used from the time of King Prithvi Narayan Shah
Nowadays, Gorkhali is known as Nepali. Actually there is no Nepali language. The present official language is Gorkhali.
And old official language was Maethilii, during the time of labour(neighbour) kings.
Somebody is saying – ….is vikram sammad and other one Nepal Sammad.
Baba says ….there is one Shaunk king, it is one Shakha(tribe), Yuchi.
Yuchi is a type of Shakha(tribe), Kaoshong.
Kaoshong when they came to Bhárata – they were Hináyáni Buddhist.
They occupied, it was their victory over Bhárata.
For memorizing, the lipi that they made their tribe. It is matter of shame.(not clear)
Somebody is saying they occupied over Bhárata.
It is from ancient Vikrama Sankalpa.
Somebody is asking, Vikrama Sankalp was a controversy.
Baba says, yes it is.
Regarding Scriptology of the world, I spoke in China, whether the record exist or not, I don’t know.
In relation with Chinese script, Tibetan script, Indian script I had shown how it links up with one another.
Somebody ask something,
Chinese script is 6000 years, then you didn’t know that Nágari is only 800 years old, many of them didn’t know these.
Nágar Brahmin, in Bhárata, during the ancient times, the script were kept by then Brahmins, to look after distortion and preserve with special branch.
In Bhárata(INDIA), there are 10 recognized Brahmins.
During the reign of Buddhists, there was complete non-existence of caste or creed. Even there was full swing of marriages amongst every caste and creed.
Later they formed, the caste system once again by seeing the title existing.
Actually there is no existence of caste at all. Only there was title.
Indian Christian may also have title Mukherjii. Mukherjii title means he is a Brahmin, how it can be considered?
A Christian can have a title Mukherjii. Why it can’t be?
Yes it can.
During the time of Buddhist reign, caste was completely not existing.
Shankaracarya, when he started Santana Dharma, he thought how the caste can be formed?
By seeing the title – if Ojha, yes he can be Brahmin, Banerjee, he is a Brahmin. Singh, he is a Kśatriya.
This is how it was done.
Somebody says it is artificial.
Yes, it is artificial.
In first phase, who became Hindu from Buddhist, they were Brahmin.
Those who were rigid and said, we don’t want to leave Buddhism, they were left behind, the first ones who became, whatever the spirit they put forth, even the same spirit the laters had.
This is what?
All caste and creed had become one. The foremost who came forward were regarded has Brahmin and the left over, who did came later, were not accepted to be Brahmin. Do you follow?
The Brahmins who were formed, they were also the same, because they accepted it first and those who came late were not.
The people who came later, they were known to be Bhumiyar.
Do you follow.
Title are the same. Pandey, Dubey, Tiwari, they are all same.
There was no caste at all, in bhumiyar you may also find Singh title, who is Kśatriya.
The Brahmins who are in present, they do not have the caste.
When they were all Buddhist, the marriage was held between this caste and that caste. Do you all understand properly.
The Caste and Creed is only fake, only what?
Somebody says Presthim Hai(purely artifical). Presthim Hai(purely artificial)
During that time in Bhárata, only these 10 groups were recognized has Brahmins and not the rest others.
Because these people have become very soon Hindus, leaving Buddhism.
As per the Brahmin group, whatever lipi exists – five is from North and five is from South.
North India lipi’s name is Paiṋca Gaodiiya and South India’s lipi name is Paiṋca Dravidii.
Go on counting this Paiṋca Gaodiiyas
1. North Bihar’s – Maethili
2. East UP – Kányakubja
3. Punjab, Kashmir, Harayana, Jammu – Sárasvata
4. Rajasthan – Gaod́a
5. Gujarata – Nágar– somebody is saying – Deva Nágari
these are Paiṋca Gaodiiya.
Somebody says Paiṋca Dravidii
1. Orissa – Utkal
2. Andhra – Traelauṋga
3. Madras – Tamil
4. Mysore – Karńáta
5. Maharashtra – Citpávan .
These are Paiṋca Dravidii.
Now you all have understood.
Somebody is saying, such a preestim(artificality).
You see somebody is black, white, yellow, you see how – these are all artificial(banowati chize).
For the world, it is ahitakhar(dangerous), ek dham ahitakhar(completely dangerous).
It is not only for the world, but is for the entire humanity.
Paiṋca Gaodiiya and Paiṋca Dravidii you all have understood.
You know here the Kányakubja – actual it is Kányakubja, Kánya-kubja, kubja is the word here – kubja vashidhe Kányakubja.
Somebody is telling something here.
The old name is Sakeda, or still older name is Kaoshal, or still older name is Uttarakaoshal, or Sakeda or Shabasti or Kányakubja – kubja ke vashidhe Kányakubja.
Who left Kashi and went towards east – …..Shabdapahari is in east – they went to Anarya desha.
Some conversation .. not clear Pathiti varga ….Paneya dhubhuja title …
One more thing Baba is saying calling the name of a margii….
This Kányakubja Brahmin when they used to write Samskrta, it was in Kut́ila. Do you follow. These happened as per Brahmins. So it was the Bhojpur’s own lipi(script).
If it is possible, when I have time, for you I can write the alphabet how it is the Bhojpur own lipi(script).
Magadhi Prakrta – for Buddhist it is a very sacred language(bhasa) you know.
So Buddhist call Magadhi Prakrta has Pali.
Hináyáni buddhist dharma shastra is in Pali language – Mahadhi Prakrta -Magadha Prakrta.
But Maháyáni is in Samskrta.
Tripithaka is in Páli.
But Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim, Tibet, China and Japan – buddhist dharma here are Maháyáni. These was translated in Tibet, Japan and China later on. Do you follow.
Somebody is asking whether Maháyáni and Hináyáni worship idols.
Hináyáni also worship Buddha idols but Maháyáni worships Buddha, Baodha deviya, Bodhisattva, Varahi, Vajra Varahi, then Tara, Niila Tara, Niila Saraswati, these are all Baodha devi hai. Tara devi has very graciously worshipped in Tibet. In Nepal the lalita patan, once upon a time, it was capital. You may see there also Baodha devi.
Somebody is asking something
You see both Maháyáni and Hináyáni was taken away from Buddha’s kingdom.
Somebody is asking that Maháyáni did exist before Buddha came?
No, no. Tantra is very old thing. Then, during the time of ..Tantra, then, when the people became buddhist, buddhism, there was an adjustment between buddhism and tantra kal. That adjustment of Buddhism with Tantrakala, it is called Maháyánism.
And where there has been no adjustment of Tantrakal, it is only Buddham, sharanam, gacchami, it is Hinayani.
Nepali buddhist, buddhist of Nepal are Maháyáni, all, not little, all.
That’s why, Buddhism is called Northern school of Buddhistic faith, there is northern Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim, Tibet, China and Japan.
The southern school is Cyelon, Burma, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia that Hináyáni is called Southern school of Buddhistic faith.
And the monks – the Hináyáni monks use saffron dress, and Maháyáni some where white, some where saffron, somewhere black.
China and Japan use black there.
Somebody ask about Jain.
Vardhaman Jain Mahavir, Vardhaman was naked.
Somebody is asking about Váráńasi.
Váráńasi is also written has – Vara yukta +anas+ uniip – Váráńasi.
Where if one dies, there will be no more rebirth again.
Vara + anasi – anas means birth, if there is forceful hold of birth, that is Váráńasi.
Not varana and asi is Varanuasi, it is a common error.
It is the most ordinary knowledge.
Varuna and nasi will be Varunasi. Not Váráńasi. What?